Interview with Angel Andreu

Global Key Offer Manager "ECO district heating & cooling networks", Development, Innovation and Markets Department, Veolia
Published in the dossier of April 2018

In what way is waste heat recovery an area of development for Veolia?

It is part of the Group's renewable energy package that meets the challenges of the energy transition and thus is a natural part of its circular economy strategy. Not to mention that there are considerable heat reserves

How do you include it in your commercial offers?

Residual energy is a key element in providing energy solutions for our municipal and industrial customers. Among other criteria, we are now focusing on small-to-medium district networks that could use this local residual energy. Working in close collaboration with Veolia's Business Unit teams on the ground brings together all the required expertise and deepens knowledge of the local market. Together, we create a bespoke offer for each customer, while ensuring that it is replicable in identical cases across the world and is viable long term.

What are the commonalities and differences between industrial and municipal customers?

Industry is increasingly looking for continuity of service and prices in a highly competitive environment, whereas local authorities are committed to the circular economy and resilience and are more concerned about recovering waste heat to supply an eco-district, for example. Whatever the customer, we provide an extremely detailed offer adapted to the local context. This is why we do not necessarily promote the same solution in every geographical area. For example, biomass is growing in China, while in southern Europe and Australia the focus is on cold production from energy produced from photovoltaic.

Does Veolia's offer focus on data centers?

Veolia is positioned on all waste heat recovery projects, regardless of where the heat is produced: data centers, but also cooling systems for hospitals or offices, waste to energy units, wastewater networks, etc. But there is one constraint: the heat recovered has to be used near the point of production, hence the need to build a local network.

What is the benefit for Veolia in responding to major "energy" tenders, such as that of the European Union?

The EU's Horizon 2020 project offers us the opportunity to develop pilots to test different technological heat recovery solutions. This is the case in braunschweig, but also in other European countries and for other energies such as solar. Today, the Group manages more than 570 heating and cooling networks around the world, which gives it extensive expertise in the field and in the application of energy regeneration systems.

Globally is this energy a growth market?

Of course it all depends on the different national contexts and especially the energy policies in place. Whether the customer is in the public or private sector, Veolia has to adapt to the context and the level of development and promotion of a particular energy. And we have to provide a solution that includes the maximum amount of renewable energy. Today we see western European countries and China moving from coal to biomass, central Europe and southern Europe are focusing on waste heat recovery while solar farms are growing in America and in the Middle East.